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Had a nap - so much more awake now. Which may be a problem, since its almost 11:30. Oh well.

Since I have quite a few things feel like saying at the moment, and some of them are quiet spoilery, I figured I would get adventurous and try lj-cuts.


From UIP, at the Australian Browncoats board
http://serenitymovie.com.au/
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CINDERELLA MAN $2,061,706
WALLACE AND GROMIT $2,061,706
CHARLIE $1,922,884
DUKES OF HAZZARD $1,684,657
DEUCE BIGALOW $1,552,147
SKY HIGH $1,528,750
SHARK BOY/LAVA GIRL $1,527,476
SERENITY $1,489,797
TRANSPORTER 2 $1,014,967

It's important to note, however, that Serenity still maintains the highest per screen average of any film in the top ten.

The real test for the film's success comes this weekend when it faces its second weekend in release. Naturally we're hoping that with good word of mouth and those strong per-screens the film will climb the ranks.

Remember to tell all your friends and family to tell all their friends and family to see the BDM. This weekend could be break-point for the franchise so we trust you'll twist every arm out there!
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I've been lurking about a lot of Serenity/Firefly boards this past week, and I'm suprised at the backlash that Joss is getting from some fans about some of the events in the movie. Which prompted me to write this rant...

This topic even came up on one of my Stargate lists, starting a debate about the value of character death for realism as opposed to shock value. I should say here - I loved Wash. He was one of my favourite characters. I quite liked Book too, but with his reduced role in the movie, and the different relationship between him and Mal, I was too distracted to fully apppreciate his death.

So, my thoughts on this, in no particular order:

1 - Anyone going into a Joss Whedon movie, having seen any of his previous stuff, and expecting someone not to die needs their head examined. It's what he does. Deal.

2 - In the Whedonverse, happy relationships DO NOT LAST. Furthermore, they generally end up with one of the two people involved being dead. It's like the horror movie rules in 'Scream', about people always dying when they lose their virginity, or whatever. Thinking back over 'Buffy' and 'Angel' - 'bout the only two people who had a happy, non-death-ending relationship in either show were Willow and Oz (Willow and Kennedy do not count, the show ended before one of them could die :)), and that didn't exactly end perfectly. Zoe and Wash were the only established couple in "Firefly", and their main source of marital tension - Wash's insecurity about Zoe's relationship with Mal - was resolved during the course of the series ('War Stories', I believe). Therefore, Happily Married Couple = Death. Or at least horrendous, life-altering events which threaten to Destroy Their Love. Personally, my pick to die was Zoe, but hey, you can't win them all.

3 - Death for shock value. Well, yeah. Killing off one of the main characters IS shocking, that's the point. If you don't care, why are you watching? But generally, Joss has reasons beyond that (see below), which is why he has such a rabid fanbase.

4 - Death to advance the plot. Joss Whedon has a long tradition of using the deaths of characters to motivate other characters to react differently. Most notably would be Willow's reaction to Tara's death, but there are also many less dramatic examples. This would be where the death of Book fits, in my opinion. Book's death propelled Mal to take a stand about the alliance. (One assumes this is the reason for the sudden great respect that Movie!Mal has for Movie!Book, one of the weaker features of the film for me). Without this, Mal, would probably be content to keep running.

5 - Death for realism - in the real world, actions have consequences. The consequences of Buffy and Angel's ill-fated love affair, and Buffy's inability to kill Angelus when she had the chance, had far more impact after Angelus killed Jenny Calender.

6 - Death for realism - In the real world, people die. If people are all magically safe of the show/movie, how is the audience going to feel any sense of danger? Think Janet dying in SG-1. The producers came right out and said this was to remind people that the work they did was dangerous (although, it's no wonder people forget on that show - how many times have people come back from the dead?). And this is where Wash's death was so important. His brutal and abrupt death created a real sense of peril for the rest of the characters. While watching, I was very worried about the fate of at least two or three of the other characters.

Personally, apart from my issues with a few of the characterisations (in that they were different from the series) my biggest problem was that we did not get to see sufficient reaction to the death. Not directly afterwards - they were fighting for there lives, and didn't really have much time for morning. That moment of silence, and the top-down view of Zoe loading her gun, was perfect. As was her suicidal (and stupid) charge against the Reavers. I mean, can you really picture Zoe, in her right mind, getting in the line of fire between Jayne and the bad guys? I don't think so.

No, it was afterwards - I'm just so used to the death of characters occuring in a series, where (in the whedonverse, at least) it is dealt with over several episodes. To have the movie end, even with the symbolic dialogue between Zoe and Mal, before I got that resoltuion, felt wrong. It is, unfortunately the consequences of this being a movie, rather than a TV series.

OK, it think it is time to end this scary long rant.



Oh, and Bob/ette sent me some Joss Whedon interviews today. Very cool (even if one of them was named 'Joss Wheaton' - Mmm, Joss, the amazing chocolate Wheaton LOL) One of them had 'We attack the major with homus' line, which is one of my all time faves. *big grin*

Date: 2005-10-07 02:51 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just want to point out that that was jjj's fault, not mine.
bob/ette

Date: 2005-10-07 11:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
and i just want to point out that obviously when i called that bloke joss wheaton that you shouldnt have picked on me so much. it is obviously a common mistake. i guess if he was more famous it wouldnt happen....but then again i understnd he could never be as important or as famous as people like those from tripod

Date: 2005-10-07 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Have you noticed that your family spam this livejournal alot?
It keeps us off the streets i guess.
Bob/ette

Date: 2005-10-07 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
Now you guys need to get one, where you can gush about Tripod as much as you like. And I can come and spam you :) After all, it's only fair.

Date: 2005-10-09 09:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
but there is no need. we have urs.

GO TRIPOD!!!!!

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