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Sheesh. Between this and the continuing FanLib thing, I'm getting seriously overloaded on the Fandom drama. One things for sure - I was considering trying to get a permanent account when they go on sale, but there's not a chance in hell of me doing that now.

For some reason, I'm still more upset/annoyed about FanLib (not that I'm NOT bloody pissed about this), but I think that's mostly because it has the potential to follow fandom wherever it's hosted. At least LJ arbitrarily deleting accounts without investigation, as bloody insane infuriating as it is, can be countered moving. And I seriously doubt LJ will keep this up once WfI and their friends get bored, declare 'victory' and find a new target.

So, to make up for the crappiness of the news hitting LJ today, I shall share this rather amusing YouTube video
I stumbled across last night. Star Wars - The Empire Brokeback.

Oh, and a nice, rational post by profic author Elizabeth Moon Bear on fanfic. I have some of Elizabeth Moon books, been meaning to get some more. This just encouraged me to move her books to the top of my list.

Enjoy - and then go check your Interests, just to be safe.

Edited to fix my bloody stupid mistake. *Sigh* It's been one of those days.

Date: 2007-05-30 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seldear.livejournal.com
Elizabeth Moon is brilliant, and that post has only made me love her more.

If you haven't already, try The Serrano Legacy. Takes a while to get into, but once it hits its stride, it's a fascinating study of a military/political intermingling and how it might actually work in the real world.

Date: 2007-05-30 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
I might have read that one, I think - it was a very long time ago. Sounds like it might be time for me to find them again and re-read.

Date: 2007-05-30 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redbyrd-sgfic.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, I like the first Heris Serrano trilogy- I've fallen behind on the others in the series. The first Vatta's War book was fun as well.

Of her other work, The Deed of Paksennarion trilogy (plus one or two more in the same universe) is fun as long as you don't think about it too hard- it's well written, but it's a bit too faithful a translation of the modern military into a medieval environment to be really plausible to a critical eye.

Sassinak and Generation Warriors were fun, not too deep, but also not as well written as some of her later work.

I thought her standalone The Speed of Dark was fascinating- not just a thoughtful hard SF book, but a serious attempt to capture the viewpoint of an autistic person (Moon has an autistic child, and apparently did a lot of research).

Date: 2007-05-31 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
I've definitely read Sassinak and Generation Warriors, and at least the first Heris Serrano one. Looks like it's time to get more. And Speed of Dark sounds really interesting.

Date: 2007-05-30 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittysorceress.livejournal.com
This LJ crap only just infuriates me more than FanLib, and only because a few of my communities are at risk - for no real reason. They're f-locked, so hopefully nothing will happen, but one of my friend's communities has already been deleted and I'm scared.

Date: 2007-05-30 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's a bit different when it is going to have an immediate effect on you/your friends.

I know the reason I'm taking a slightly 'longer term' view on this is that, being almost completely non-shippy, and completely non-cest*, I don't stand to lose that much. OTOH, I do have some good friends in the SPN fandom, and I know this could get very problematic for them *if* it gets out of hand. And I say if, because at this stage, I'm still holding out hope that it will all die down fast.

*hugs* Don't be (too) scared - given the size of LJ, the numbers of communities with the 'target' interests, you should be OK. Take the precautions, and hope for the best *more hugs*

*To clarify: I'm not saying I have a problem with it (in fic, obviously), but that I don't read it. Not my thing, one might say.

Date: 2007-05-30 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vasher.livejournal.com
Poor [livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies ;_____;- my last toehold in HP fandom.

Hmm, seems to be a tossup between FanLib and this thing. FanLib has bigger potential ramifications for fandom in general, I think, because it's bringing fanworks into RL stuff, but the whole LJ thing is actively deleting supposedly sacrosanct stuff that users didn't expect to get all kablooeed. Hopefully, it'll blow over soon.

Bit worried about the DMC yaoi comms (omg, they're almost all incest)... *edits userinfo*

Date: 2007-05-31 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
Yeah, LJ is now, FanLib is some potential danger in the future.

SPN will have the same problem, I suspect :(

Date: 2007-05-31 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgonskywalker.livejournal.com
Surely it will eventually dawn on LJ that they're doing damage to themselves by alienating such a large group of users and communities by their current actions.

I now have a basic account, mainly because the ads were so irritating right in the middle of my info sometimes when I had a plus. I too was very seriously considering getting a permanent account when they became available but not anymore.

Date: 2007-05-31 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
I can't get too mad at LJ, really - they are doing what they have to do to protect themselves. It sucks, but that's the legal environment for you. But that still doesn't mean I'm going to give them any more of my money - I understand it, but I don't have to like it.

Who I am mad at are the people who reported these journals without even checking. Leaving aside all the fannish and RPG ones, a community for re-reading Lolita?

Date: 2007-05-31 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com
Elizabeth Bear and Elizabeth Moon are different people.

But I do love Elizabeth Moon's military SF (couldn't get into her fantasy--too grim for me).

Date: 2007-05-31 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
*Headdesk* Well, that was a bloody obvious mistake, wasn't it?

Edited to fix.

Date: 2007-06-03 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshayde.livejournal.com
Star Wars *sniff* My poor virgin eyes!

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