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I've just spent an absolutely fascinating hour or so reading through the msscribe saga over on bad_penny (journalfen account). For those of you who haven't spent anytime in the HP fandom, it's probably of very limited interest (except for the sheer WTF?ry, and master use of sock puppets).

Although, the background should be recommended reading for anyone trying to understand the state of the HP fandom, both currently and historically, especially the situation surrounding the formation of most of the major HP archives. I used to lurk back on the lists (including HP4GU) when all this was going on, and it's interesting to see the whole picture. (Yes, [profile] cloverfizz, HP was my first fandom. Don't hate me too much.)

Ah, the Good Old Days. Back when BNF meant BNF (Cassie Clare, anyone?), none of the major sites talked to the others (well, not unless restraining orders were involved ^_^), and sockpuppets ruled the earth (hey, who needs anonymous memes when you have a sockpuppet, hey?). In fact, it makes the current 'hate meme" wank look tiny in comparison.

Speaking of Hate Memes, a few of the commenters have mentioned that they think this shit is responsible for a lot of the general hatred and BNF-hate that's still around today. I think they're probably right - some of this shit was seriously nasty. When I think about it, this stuff is probably one of the main reasons it took me over 5 years to stop lurking in fandom, and start actively contributing. And when I did, you can be sure it wasn't in any HP areas.

HP fandom. What can you say?

Date: 2006-06-17 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
Yes, I saw your name, and your mouse-y comments. But as soon as I saw SQ mentioned, I thought of you :)

Yep, I've been floating around fandom for quite a while, now. I also remember the CC plagiarism debacle (which has GOT to get some sort of recognition as the biggest scandal in any fandom ever), although I heard most of it second or third hand, since I never visited the FFN forums. I may have to get you to give me an insider's perspective of it one day (i.e. Did she do it?)

Like I said - the sheer amount of wankiness and clique-iness of the HP fandom in the early days is one of the reason's I'm still reluctant to get involved in fandom other than in my own safe little LJ.



Date: 2006-06-19 01:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ashavah
There were a lot of hurt feelings around then. I hate seeing people and things I love dissed. And SQ and GT and my friends from both of them got dissed a lot back then.

And I just realised that comment sounded so fame-seeking. I think what I meant is just how surprised I was to see myself there and how surprised I am that half my friendslist seems to be reading this. And there am I, mousing away in the comments, hopefully not being a jerk. Because if I was, my whole flist would know. ;-)

Date: 2006-06-19 01:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ashavah
PS: Someone's doing a big compilation of posts on the matter, and yours is linked. Thought you should be warned/informed. ;-)

Date: 2006-06-21 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyore.livejournal.com
Huh. OK. Don't really know why they bothered, but I wonder how they found it.

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